Does the new f1 double points rule apply for all places?



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Give the folks over at Lotus F1 credit for creativity, if nothing else. Instead of jumping on the Formula One hate wagon along with those bashing series leaders for passing a rule for 2014 that will award double points for the final race of the season at Abu Dhabi, Lotus F1 tweeted out a number of rule changes it thinks would also help make the sport more competitive.

The list includes such thought-provoking ideas as, "Andy driver who has a pet named 'Roscoe' will start from the back of the grid. On even days only. Does not apply in April," and "Any driver celebrating his birthday on the day of qualifying will be granted pole position, 10 points, and a Ferrari garage tour."

You get the idea.

No word on whether or not Lotus forwarded the list to F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone:

Check out the Lotus wishlist below:

Looks like #SillySeason starts earlier each year... #F1...

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Published: 00:03 GMT, 11 December 2013 | Updated: 18:10 GMT, 20 December 2013

Technically, the Football League play-offs are not fair. It really does not make sense that, after 46 matches, the team who finish third and the team finishing sixth should have to meet again, over two legs and a level start. Yet we tolerate this inconsistency for a variety of reasons.

The play-offs make the competition more interesting. With a month to go until the end of the season there are usually eight teams or more who believe they have a chance of winning promotion. This keeps the league alive, keeps attendances up and provides a spectacle for the broadcasters.

Also, the rules are known in advance and the competition is not a complete lottery. The top two teams are automatically promoted, which is fair and rewards the highest achievement, and all competitors know that to be certain of going up they must finish either first or second. Below that, there is a knockout...

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Sebastian Vettel has labelled Formula One's new double points rule "absurd", according to a report in Sport Bild.

On Monday the FIA revealed that from now on the final race of the season would be worth twice as many points as the rest of the races "in order to maximise focus on the championship until the end of the campaign". Under the new rules, next year's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix will award 50 points instead of 25 to the winner, 36 instead of 18 for second place, 30 instead of 15 for third and so on throughout the top ten.

Vettel, who would have still won this year's title in India under the system but would have missed out on his 2012 title, made clear he was against the idea by suggesting it would not be accepted in football.

"Imagine it, at the last Bundesliga match there would suddenly be double points," he was quoted by Sport Bild. "This is absurd and punishes those who have worked hard for a whole season. I'm fond of the old traditions in Formula One and...

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Racing on qualifying tyres

How it worked in 2013: Drivers who made it to Q3 start the race on the tyres with which they set their fastest lap in Q3.

How it works now: Drivers who reach Q3 start the race on the tyres they used to set their fastest lap in Q2.

Why the change? To make sure everyone goes out in Q3 rather than sitting it out and saving a set for the race. It’s very embarrassing when a huge crowd shows up on Saturday to watch cars stay in the garages.


How it worked in 2013: The nose was no more than 550mm above the ground (high nose).

How it works now: The nose is no more than 185mm above the ground (low nose)

Why the change? Safety. The low nose is thought to be less likely to launch cars into the air in the event of an accident like Mark Webber’s at the 2010 European Grand Prix. The new designs aren’t as convenient for moving airflow under the car – hence the decision by many to extend their noses with the...

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Eddie Irvine driving his Jaguar on the A1 Ring (Austria 2002)

Eddie Irvine driving the Jaguar at Monaco in 2002

Former F1 driver Eddie Irvine has issued a stinging assessment of F1's controversial new 'double points' rule for the 2014 finale.

Regularly critical of the sport's adoption of gimmicky innovations, such as the overtaking aid DRS, former Ferrari and Jaguar driver Irvine said the rulemakers have gone a step too far with the decision to keep the championship alive by offering double points at the last race of next season in Abu Dhabi.

"That actually made me realise I am not going to watch another race until that rule gets kicked out," he told the Belfast Telegraph.

"That is just embarrassing. It really is. They should be ashamed of themselves.

"It's ridiculous, I've never heard such a joke in all my life. Talk about tinsel town bullsh*t," Irvine added.

48-year-old Irvine, who last raced in F1 in 2002 and now makes his money...

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Formula 1 will go ahead with its controversial plan to award double points at the last race of the season.

The proposal - the idea of F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone - was raised at a meeting of the sport's bosses but no attempt was made to overturn it.

Ecclestone thinks the idea will help keep the championship alive for as long as possible after Sebastian Vettel's recent dominance of the sport.

The Red Bull star has won the drivers' title for the last four years.

Prior to Wednesday's meeting in Geneva, one leading team boss, who wanted to remain anonymous, told BBC Sport that "most participants would agree to ditch" the points proposal if they were given the chance.

He claimed Ecclestone and the FIA, which governs the sport, had "completely misjudged the predictable negative response from the public".

Ferrari president Luca Di Montezemolo also said last month that he was "not enthusiastic" about the plan, arguing it was "too...

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The FIA has confirmed it will scrap the controversial double points finale to the F1 season as part of a raft of rule changes for the 2015 campaign.

The decision to award double points for the season-concluding Abu Dhabi GP last year provoked outrage among F1 fans and, while it did not influence the championship outcome, has been dispensed with after just one season. For every race in 2015, the victor will earn 25 points.

Following successful trials after practice sessions in 2014, a Virtual Safety Car will be introduced next year. “It will normally be used when double-waved yellow flags are needed on any section of track and competitors or officials may be in danger, but the circumstances are not such as to warrant use of the Safety Car itself,” the FIA confirmed.

In another new procedure, the Safety Car will now pit once the last lapped car has passed, rather than waiting for lapped cars to catch the pack.

Following a Safety Car period the races will...

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According to USA Triathlon 5.10, there is no drafting (a.) (being in a 7m x 2m zone behind the rider in front of you) except in the case you are passing (h.1.), in which case you have 15s to pass (g.) as measured by your front wheel.

My primary question is, what happens if the rider in front of you happens to decide 5 sec into your passing attempt to pass the rider in front of them -- you've encroached their drafting zone but are going to same speed as them so are unable to pass them within 15 sec? If you drop back you're penalized, but if you continue to attempt to pass you're also, still, penalized?

Also, please address whether during the passing scenario above whether you can immediately enter the draft zone of the rider in front of you without first moving 2m to the left (i.e. can you ride up directly behind the rider, then move to the side to...

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Formula One drivers and teams can win double points at 2014 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Ex-racer John Watson says new ruling is a novelty which will only benefit big teams World champion Sebastian Vettel describes new rule as "absurd" Double points are one of several changes announced by governing body the FIA

Click the flashing points on the interactive above to find out more about F1's technical rule changes.

(CNN) -- Formula One drivers will get two points for the price of one at the final race of 2014 under new rules announced Monday.

The victorious driver in the season-ending Abu Dhabi Grand Prix will now win 50 points compared to 25 points for each of the other 18 races.

But former F1 race winner John Watson fears the idea of dishing out double points at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix is nothing more than a gimmick designed to manufacture a false climax to the season.

"This is a mechanism to try and alleviate the championship being...

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This is a list of points scoring systems used to determine the outcome of the FIA Formula One World Drivers' Championships since 1950 and Constructors' Championships since 1958 (when the Constructors' Cup was inaugurated). The Championships are awarded each year to the driver and constructor who accumulate the most championship points over the course of the Championship season.

In most seasons until 1990, only a certain number of a driver's best results were counted towards the World Championship. This made a difference to the outcome in 1988, when McLaren drivers Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost finished first and second respectively. Prost finished 14 races in either first or second, retiring from the other two, while Senna won 8 races to Prost's 7, meaning that he only needed 3 further 2nd places to secure the championship irrespective of Prost's other results. Senna succeeded in doing this and became champion, although Prost would have scored more points had all the races...

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Formula 1 is to award double points at the final race of the season from 2014 in an attempt to heighten interest in the World Championship.

The plan is one of a number of changes next season, along with the adoption of a cost cap - details of which are still to be finalised - from 2015.

Drivers will also choose a race number for the duration of their career.

Governing body the FIA also announced the adoption of a new five-second penalty for minor infringements.

But it will be the introduction of double points and a cost cap that will provoke most interest.

The decision to award double points, counting towards the drivers' and constructors' championships, at the final race of the season was made "to maximise focus on the championship until the end of the campaign", according to an FIA statement.

The move reduces the possibility of a championship being settled before the final race by increasing the number of points available to a driver from...

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What used to be called an engine but is now a combined group of components. The major element is still the engine with the 2.4-litre V8 replaced by a turbo-charged and quieter 1.6-litre V6. It combines with the new Energy Recovery System. Similar in concept to last year's Kers, the ERS harnesses energy under braking and from the turbo to deliver a larger and longer return. Making the package work is key in 2014. Mercedes seem to have it cracked with Ferrari not too far behind but Renault are desperately struggling.


Likely to be second only to engine performance in importance for the new season and intrinsically linked due to the increased energy return from ERS, the weight of fuel to be carried has dropped from 150kg to 100kg. It is enough to make it to the chequered flag but will require careful management in-race, with drivers having to adapt their strategy while racing to ensure best performance.

3. DOUBLE...

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Way back in January, in the midst of the first pre-season test in Jerez, southern Spain, Lewis Hamilton was asked for his view on the campaign’s climax in Abu Dhabi being worth double points. “I haven’t really given it too much thought to be honest,” he said.

Showing his propensity to be remarkably apathetic on subjects as controversial as this, Hamilton did not seem to register what all the fuss was about. Nico Rosberg was markedly more strident. Turning to Toto Wolff, the Mercedes team boss, he apologised for disagreeing with his paymaster before condemning the sport’s bigwigs for their latest brainwave. Wolff, in his typically lurid English, admitted no-one had been expecting the “s---storm” from loyal followers of the sport.

The irony is that it is Rosberg who may end up being the chief beneficiary of the 50 points on offer in Marina Bay on Nov 23, when a fascinating championship duel comes to its conclusion. As that date approaches, and with two races to...

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The numerous Formula One regulations, made and enforced by the FIA and later the FISA, have changed dramatically since the first Formula One World Championship in 1950. This article covers the current state of F1 technical and sporting regulations, as well as the history of the technical regulations since 1950.

Current rules and regulations[edit]



An F1 car can be no more than 180 cm wide and 95 cm tall. Though there is no maximum length, other rules set indirect limits on these dimensions, and nearly every aspect of the car carries size regulations; consequently the various cars tend to be very close to the same size.

The car must only have four wheels mounted externally of the body work with only the front two steered and only the back two driven. There are minimum distances allowed between the wheels and the rear and front body work.

The main chassis contains a "safety cell" which includes the...

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The revelation that the 2014 season-ending Abu Dhabi Grand Prix will pay double points has led to widespread derision among Formula 1 fans.

The rationale behind the move is to boost the chances of a final-race shootout following Sebastian Vettel's sealing of the title with three races to spare this year.

Had the rule been in place this year, the change would have made no difference and Vettel would still have sealed the title at the Indian Grand Prix.

But a glance back at the 10 instances when the world championship result would have been changed offers some interesting case studies.

In the real world, there have been 27 final-race title shootouts since the world championship started in 1950. With double points for the finale, that would increase to 46 occasions.

The examples below take into account all dropped score systems in play for the individual seasons.


Real points: 1 Ascari, 34.5; 2 Fangio, 28; 3 Farina, 26

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