Is it possible for a first or second year arbitration player to make more than the “qualifying offer?”


A restricted free agent is a type of...

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Under the old compensation system, Ramon Hernandez was a Type A free agent. (via Keith Allison)


That’s it. Those are the only numbers you get. Now, using only those stats, compare Lorenzo Cain to David Ortiz.

You’ll probably want to cheat and use some kind of subjective, non-numerical adjustments. Ortiz plays in a better hitter’s park. Cain is a good defensive center fielder and a good baserunner, while Ortiz is a lumbering mass of home runs and RBI and OBP sitting around in the dugout for half the game so that his pitchers don’t implode in a torrent of expletives every time a ground ball is hit to the right side, et cetera. And rightly so. Those things matter.

You can’t do that, though. Those numbers above are all you get.

This is, of course, a nearly impossible task. Or rather, it might not be particularly hard to do, but the results won’t be very good. And yet, for decades, that is exactly what went into MLB’s official...

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If the original team declines the offer sheet and loses the player, it receives draft picks from the player’s new team as compensation.

Compensation for losing a restricted free agent is on a sliding scale, depending on how much the new contract is worth. The exact numbers change every year.

The most a team can lose for signing an RFA is four first-round draft picks.

For 2011, a team signing a restricted free agent to a contract worth more than $7,835,219 per season loses four first-round picks to the player's old team.

For a contract worth $6,268,176 or more per year, the acquiring team gives up two first-round picks, one second rounder, and one third.

There are another four levels of compensation, going down to a contract worth up to $1,034,249 per year, for which there is no...

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Ah, Baseball. Sport of the People, where millionaires argue that they deserve more money not on the basis of having been excellent and deserving of more money, but simply because other people are getting paid more and they should as well. Even when they have mediocre or below average performances, they still get paid more than their contract specified when they started.

It’s the most bizarre thing that needs to probably get eliminated in the future and pre-FA contract adjustments put on a performance scale instead of a mandatory bump or release.

Surely someone can come up with a formula that references WAR, Service Time, and the average value of a contract signed for post-Arbitration years by a player adjusted for these values. Or just something to not make this process so...

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This is the penultimate weekend without baseball games until November. Pretty great, isn’t it? The Yankees will play their first Grapefruit League game two weeks from yesterday. Thank goodness. Anyway, here’s some news and notes to check out this weekend.

Yankees, Betances set for arbitration hearing Friday

According to George King, the Yankees and Dellin Betances are scheduled to have their arbitration hearing this coming Friday, February 17th, in St. Petersburg. “Nothing has changed, we haven’t talked. We have no intention of talking. It’s not close. Somebody else will make the decision,” said Brian Cashman. Betances is seeking $5M while the Yankees countered with $3M, which, as far as I can tell, would still be a record salary for a first year arbitration-eligible setup man.

Since the arbitration hearing is Friday, chances are the three-person panel will announce their ruling Saturday morning. That’s usually how it goes. The hearing is one day and the...

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This came up because Mike Trout, arguably the best player in baseball, will be up for arbitration next year.

Salary arbitration has the effect of paying a first, second or third year "arb" player about 40 percent, 60 percent, or 80 percent of what he would be making as a free agent. This is after three years of "minimum wage" (about $500,000).

Trout's value has been estimated at $40-$50 million (for a free agent), and many believe that he could get $15 million (or more) in first year arbitration.

A qualifying offer is the average of the top 125 salaries. It is an objective way to determine who is a "Type A" free agent that cost the signing team a draft pick.

Does the qualifying offer (which could be about $15 million next season) in any way impact how much Trout could make in...

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A restricted free agent is a type of free agent in the Kontinental Hockey League (KHL), National Football League (NFL), National Hockey League (NHL), or National Basketball Association (NBA). Such players have special restrictions on the terms under which they can retain or change employment status with their athletic club teams.

In the National Football League, a restricted free agent (RFA) is one with three accrued seasons (six or more regular season games with a team)[1] of service, who has received a "qualifying" offer (a salary level predetermined by the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the league and its players, known as a "tender") from his current club. He can negotiate with any club through a certain date. If the restricted free agent accepts an offer sheet from a new club, his old club has "right of first refusal," a five-day period in which it may match the offer and retain him, or choose not to match the offer, in which case it may receive one or more...

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I believe you mean 1958, and if you look at the column named "Tm", notice that of of the three rows for 1958 has "TOT" in that column.

That row contains the totals of the other two rows, so no need to do any extra work.

Note, too, that the stats grid has some power built into it where one can click on two rows that represent the beginning and end of a period to examine, and a pop-up will display the totals for that period.

For example, click on the first and last rows of Maris' stats, and the pop-up will produce totals that match the Career Totals row, i.e. the 1958 rows for CLE and KCA are not included in the totals because they're already accounted for by the 1958 TOT row. In fact, clear the grid of the previous selection and try clicking on either of the rows that doesn't contain the totals and notice that the row isn't highlighted. This is likely to prevent one from trying to include all three 1958 rows in one of these ad hoc summaries. (Note: it also seems...

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I just learned about QO’s this year. It just seemed like a way to make players less appealing to teams once they hit free agency since their value also includes giving up a first round pick.

But thinking about it, this would force teams to balance out the market of big free agents because they wouldn’t give up a first round pick every offseason it would screw them for the future.

It seems like its worth picking one free agent up if you lose one or more that have declined QO’s. And a lot of free agents will he pursued by clubs that are willing to sign multiple big free agents.

At least a good thing to consider is that:

When a team signs a player who previously declined a QO with another team, will that player maintain enough value to offer a QO at the end of their new contract? If so, that player will then make up for that lost draft pick when they potentially sign elsewhere.

Seems like a decent system to...

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By Jamie Fitzpatrick

NHL salary arbitration is a tool available to settle some contract disputes. The player and team each propose a salary for the coming season, and argue their cases at a hearing. The arbitrator, a neutral third party, then sets the player's salary.

Most players must have four years of NHL experience before they are eligible for salary arbitration (the term is reduced for those who signed their first NHL contract after the age of 20). The process is used by restricted free agents, because it is one of the few bargaining options available to them.

The deadline for players to request salary arbitration is July 5, with cases heard in late July and early August. A player and team can continue to negotiate up until the date of the hearing, in hopes of agreeing on a contract and avoiding the arbitration process.

Teams can also ask for salary arbitration. But a player can be taken to arbitration only once in his career, and can never receive...

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I was all set to skip down to exploring Exhibit 1 and the Standard Player's Contract and then Brendan Smith happened. We'll get down to that part later, but seeing as how it's timely, let's go ahead and move forward to Article 12 in our weekly series on the CBA (note to travelers of the future looking back and who don't care about timeliness: hello!)

You can find the entire CBA here (PDF)

Article 12 - Salary Arbitration

When a club and a restricted free agent can't come to terms on a new contract and provided other qualifications are met, either side has an option to elect salary arbitration. During this process, an independent third party hears arguments on both sides and decides what salary the player should get. Once this is decided, there are a number of different options which come available based on whether the player or the club initiated the arbitration and depending on how much salary the player is awarded. In some circumstances, the club will have...

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With all of the player movement and flying paychecks, the offseason can sometimes be as exciting as the regular season. As we enter the final phase of the offseason of 2004-2005, salary arbitration hearings, it seems timely to examine what for many is the most confounding part of any baseball winter.

Salary arbitration had humble beginnings. The owners were exhausted by holdouts who refused to show up for spring training. The players were sick of having that refusal to play as their sole leverage in contract negotiations. With Flood v. Baseball failing to force a change in the reserve clause, arbitration seemed a reasonable solution.

Ed Fitzgerald, the Milwaukee Brewers Chairman and head of the owners' Player Relations Committee (PRC) in the early 1970s, embraced the idea as a way to neutralize...

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The qualifying offer is a competitive balance measure that was implemented as part of the 2012-16 Collective Bargaining Agreement and restructured under the 2017-21 Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Note: Teams will be subject to the following parameters beginning between the 2017 and 2018 seasons.

Clubs wishing to receive compensatory Draft picks for the loss of a free agent can make a one-year "qualifying offer," worth the mean salary of MLB's 125 highest-paid players, to their impending free agents prior to the onset of free agency if and only if:

1. That player has never received a qualifying offer previously in his career.
2. That player spent the entire season on that team's roster (in-season acquisitions are ineligible).

A player will have 10 days to accept or decline the qualifying offer, during which time he can negotiate with other teams to survey his market value. Should a player decide to accept the qualifying offer,...

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